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Ocean Dreamer |
Supreme Court rejects capital punishment for child rape. Good ruling? |
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I think everyone here will agree with me when i saw that sexually abusing a child has to be THE most vile cruel horrible act a person could possibly commit.
Yet it would seem the Supreme Court doesn't think so. They ruled yesterday that a person can no longer be executed for this crime, but now can only be
given life imprisonment.This made me ill to my stomach. People for this say only people committing murder should be executed...if then. So muredering a childs
innocence and emotions , scarring them mentally for life isn't all that bad to them.......how do you feel? Was this a just ruling or not?
Supreme Court rejects capital punishment for child rape. Good ruling? (Result) |
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WhoseLineBabygirl2006 |
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pisses me off but doesnt surprise me....they let those people go free on bail for there first defense and guesse what happens everytime they do? they get
arrested again for something worse and its not until they kill someone that they get sent to jail!!
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Ocean Dreamer |
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Apparently most politicians agree with us
Unbowed, politicians vow to execute child rapists Jun 26, 04:46 AM EDT By DEBORAH HASTINGS - AP National Writer Angry politicians vowed to keep writing laws that condemn child rapists to death, despite a Supreme Court decision saying such punishment is unconstitutional. "Anybody in the country who cares about children should be outraged that we have a Supreme Court that would issue a decision like this," said Alabama Attorney General Troy King, a Republican. The justices, he said, are "creating a situation where the country is a less safe place to grow up." The court's 5-4 decision Wednesday derailed the efforts of nearly a dozen states supporting the right to kill those convicted of raping a child - and said execution was confined to attacks that take a life and to other crimes including treason and espionage. At issue before the high court was a Louisiana case involving Patrick Kennedy, sentenced to die for raping his 8-year-old daughter in her bed, an assault so severe she required surgery. In his majority opinion, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote "the death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," despite the horrendous nature of the crime. Republican Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called the ruling "incredibly absurd," "a clear abuse of judicial authority" and said officials will "evaluate ways to amend our statute to maintain death as a penalty for this horrific crime." Oklahoma officials said they, too, weren't ready to give up, and would "certainly look at what options we have," state senator Jay Paul Gumm said. "I think the people of Oklahoma have spoken loudly that this is one of the most heinous of crimes." Even White House hopefuls joined the fray. Republican John McCain called the ruling "an assault on law enforcement's efforts to punish these heinous felons for the most despicable crime." Democrat Barack Obama said there should be no blanket prohibition of the death penalty for the rape of children if states want to apply it in those cases. Forty-four states prohibit the death penalty for any kind of rape, and at least four states besides Louisiana permit it for child rape - Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas. There's disagreement over the status of a Georgia law permitting execution for child rape, although Justice Kennedy said in his ruling that it was still in effect. Following the ruling, all become unconstitutional. In Texas, Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said Wednesday that most Texans believe the death penalty is "an appropriate form of punishment for repeat child molesters. Our top priority remains protecting our most precious resource - our children." But the Texas Association Against Sexual Assault, a nonprofit victim advocacy group representing 80 rape crisis centers, applauded the ruling. "Most child sexual abuse victims are abused by a family member or close family friend," the group said in a statement. "The reality is that child victims and their families don't want to be responsible for sending a grandparent, cousin or long time family friend to death row." Nationwide, only two men have been sentenced to death for sexually abusing children - both in Louisiana. The second case involves a man convicted of repeatedly raping a 5-year-old girl. Both men will get new sentences. Several states, including Missouri, Alabama and Colorado had been considering similar laws. In South Carolina, Republican Attorney General Henry McMaster said states could ultimately fight Wednesday's ruling by waiting for a change in the makeup of the Supreme Court, or by getting legislatures to redo death penalty laws. Legal experts were divided on the potential success of such tactics. According to Douglas Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University, the justices' ruling appears ironclad. "In the absence of death, the death penalty is off the table," he said. The court, he said, "could have left open the possibility of revamping child rape laws, by age for example, but it did not." Law professor Deborah Denno of Fordham University wasn't so sure. It could be possible to argue for the application of the death penalty against attackers who "intended to kill" their victims, but didn't, she said. Or those who assault especially young children, such as toddlers. --- Associated Press writers Mark Sherman in Washington, Jeffrey Collins in South Carolina, Janet McConnaughey in Louisiana, Phillip Rawls in Alabama, Jim Vertuno in Texas and Sean Murphy in Oklahoma contributed to this report. |
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crazee cat ladie |
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that makes me really mad. .
A child molester is just as bad as a murderer in my book....there is no cure for this, according to Doctors. I say axe the whole damn bunch of them~ |
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1941 willys coupe |
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Looks like were all in agreement on this one ! Those people are sicko's and like was said they are as bad as a murder to me !
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DDRGSD |
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As long as they keep them off the streets, I guess i don't care.
Don't get me wrong, they deserve death, but if they won't give them that, life in prison should be the minimum
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hurleysgirl |
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I agree Jeff.
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Pamplemousse Jus |
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My only reason for not going with the death-penalty is that it's so flawed at this point and, while I support it, I'm not confident enough in how the
legal system works to say it's always the best answer.
Also, while I think people who rape children are incredibly sick and need to be shot in the head, what about people who rape adults? It's just as bad. I'm not making light of any situation in which a child is put into danger or grossly mistreated, but I don't think it should be treated differently depending on age. Clearly, I'm not speaking of statuatory rape where consent just isn't applicable. In cases, where there are serial rapists or violent rapists, those adult victims are just as traumatized (and I'd venture to say because of their age and ability to understand what's happening) maybe even more-so than a child, who if not physically scarred from the incident, might forget all about it over time. Women who have been violently raped are emotionally and mentally scarred as well. I also wonder if sentencing people to death will backfire in some cases where the rapist is a close family member. If a child is old enough to understand what the death penalty is and they are raped by a family member, might this cause them to not speak up about abuse? I would hate to see that happen. However, I do feel it should be left to each state to decide how they deal with such horrific crimes. States have individual guidelines when dealing with the death penalty for murder so I'm wondering what the guidelines were for states that would have given the death penalty to child rapists and if this would also apply to rapists in general. |
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Some good points there Rachael. I don't know enough about your legal system to judge really but ours is definitely flawed.
I know children who suffer sexual abuse often blame themselves though and the guilt can stay with them well into adulthood without the correct help. Add to that the perceived guilt of causing their abuser's death and the trauma may well be much worse long term. It's a tough one and not as cut and dried as it seems. Hard not to have that knee jerk reaction though.
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Ocean Dreamer |
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Sorry, i say kill the bastards!!! I don't want my tax money going towards feeding and housing a sicko in jail all his life while he lays around reliving
his sick little fantasy.
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Ocean Dreamer |
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And Rach they used to execute men who raped women up until around the late 50s when the liberals first came to be.
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DDRGSD |
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Liberals have been around a lot longer than that. I think the 50's is when common sense started to become less common.
I don't like the idea of having to house them either. The get free cable for Christ sake.
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